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How do you spot a conman?
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Richierich
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Join Date: 18/08/2009
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Posted: 18/08/2009 9:00:16 AM
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psnowflake... pls do not fall for that old chestnut... the only time you would give a deposit is when placing an order. This must have been a small or local company that made this claim!!!
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Richierich
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Posted: 18/08/2009 9:11:20 AM
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In response to chuckles1212..
Yes I agree with your observations regarding the tactics of double glazing firms, but please do not forget that thois is a tactic that is rife in most consumer products. For example how often do we see the DFS final clearance sale of 50% off MRP. I don't know of anyone who has ever paid MRP (manufaturers recommended price). Offers only valid till the end of the bank holiday.. then the ned of the summer etc. etc. Carpet right, do this, B@Q, homebase, MFI were the worst for this kind of gimmick. So yes, we do it but it's what people now expect. I explain this upfront when I see customers and give them the equivalent scenario, but I do explain how our pricing works so they are fully informed when making a decision. Yes we have discounts and discounts for making a decision on the day. The reason for the latter discount is common sense. It saves everyone time and money if a decision can be made whilst the salesman is there otherwise it means a second trip which means more time, petrol amd the loss of another potential sale whilst going back for this one.... Most of us sales man out there are lucky if we make 100 quid on a deal these days as we get screwed everytime by the customer!!!! So why should we go back for a second visit, after all the customer has a further 7 days to change their mind and get in other quotes.... On the odd occassion where the customer genuinely needs to delay the decision i suggest filling in the paperwork and only submitting it once they have made their decision and do this over the phone. They are usually more than happy with this suggestion.
Some people just cannot make a decision on the same day.. it happens, but usually it's just about getting the price right....
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psnowflake
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insiderinfo
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Posted: 05/11/2009 2:01:55 PM
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boozerburt this guy actually got off with this by using an expensive lawyer and then went on to be part of a management buy out at the company where he was working at the time (understand now why they never sacked him) Paramount windows and conservatories in Newcastle where i believe he is still working,
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Anglianeyes
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Join Date: 12/09/2009
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Location: Manchester
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Posted: 14/11/2009 2:11:43 AM
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The Double Glazing forum welcomes useful questions and input from all members of the double glazing community, both people in the trade and homeowners.
However, following the lead of other members of the double glazing community, we have taken the decision to remove this post, as we have been informed that there is on-going legal action, which we do not want to become involved with (please see house rules 5 - Don't Get Us In Trouble)
In addition, due to the legal action, Anglian are unable to reply in a public forum which, in our opinion, distorts the balance of discussion.
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insiderinfo
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Posted: 14/11/2009 9:15:05 AM
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anglian eyes;
bay windows only require spreader plates if they are load bearing bays which in a bungalow i dont think they will be, in the case of u saying that a main beam supporting the roof sits on top of a bay window this is bad building practice and something you should take up with the housebuilder. any supporting beam should be on top of a lintel - if this is on top of a bay that u say is collapsing your roof would have collapsed as well.
Your comments however about fensa are right - they are nothing but a money making scheme for the govt who even charge companies for inspections that arent carried out,
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Anglianeyes
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Posted: 16/11/2009 11:49:45 PM
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May Bay are load supporting in several of the Bays, one of them, has a brick Parapet above the bay, in a semi circular shape, as the room is almost round, this was allowed to drop, along with the flat roof, the Parapet is half round, leaning forwards, and cracked on both sides, basically speaking, its only a matter of time, before it separates. one of other bay window, has a main roof beam, just above the windows, on another room, i have been sleeping on the floor in the living room almost since 2005, as the most dangerous room is the bedroom, when the flat roof is, and Parapet, believe it or not, Anglian home improvements in stalled new windows in this home, and refused to put in supporting plates, when they seen the windows been crushed for the first time, that was a warning, they put in writing and a promise to put in the plate's guess what they said next time the windows were taken out and new ones were going in, they claimed my installation does not have to comply with building regs, and refused to put the plates in the second time, guess what, the windows were been crushed again, read the following.
SHOCK HORROR STORY
The major Problems are with FENSA and the GGF, including the BBA.
The BBA are employed by FENSA to carry out inspections, when they failed to comply with Building Regs on my Home, after 3 inspections, they then threatened to sue me, when i stated i am making it public, that they are Putting Customers lives and Properties in Danger, so be careful what you say to these People, they also stated they will do anything to Protect their Certifications, i told them to Sue me, then, but i am still waiting, 9 months or so on.
Between the 3 of these, So called Experts, who threaten the Consumer, and do not have the Skills or Experience as they say, they have, after 3 BBA/FENSA inspections, and one, installation in their Charge, this home is in danger of Collapse,, they also caused a great deal of Damage, to the home, by allowing the front of the Home to drop, trying to force me to sign gagging orders, by Anglians Managing Director, who likes to use different names and Titles in his Deceptions.
I have a letter here, from Building Control. to FENSA and Anglian Home Improvements in 2007, telling them to retrain their Managers and Installers on Building regs, as they have no idea what they are, then 1 year, Later, they destroy my Home, and refuse to put the damage right, only by illegally trying to force me to sign gagging orders, using threats and Blackmail, this is FENSA and what it does, even turning away other Customers.
For instance FENSA, Claim and are Advertising and informing the General Public that they enforce Building regulations, Same with Anglian Home Improvements they also Claim that FENSA enforces Building regulations, in their Standards Video. this is deliberately misleading and cheating, You the General Public, and they are Profiting from its misleading Advertising.
The real truth is FENSA do not enforce Building regulations, they cannot enforce Building regulations, they do not have any legal powers, also, they cannot and will not force any of its Members to comply with Building regulations, if they carry out a very dangerous Installation.
Also a point to note, is FENSA, as in my case, took over 2 years to carry out, a Safety inspection, when it acknowledged, the installation was dangerous, that Anglian Home Improvements, repeatedly not once but many times and still today 5 years later, refuse to comply with Building Regs, leaving my home in danger of Collapse, even illegally issuing FENSA Certificates, i am not the only person they have illegally issued FENSA Certificates after stating building regs do not apply, after seeing windows been crushed, they kept installing windows, and they kept been crushed, because they refused to install the legally required spreader plates in Bay windows.
My advice to anyone, Dont use FENSA, they do not enforce Building Regs, and cannot enforce them as they stated later to me, so i have emails from FENSA proving they deliberately misled me, by firstly stating they enforce Building regs, and they later stating they cannot.
If you want to wait for 2 years for them to carry out a safety inspection, well you could be putting your Families lives in danger, and your Home, along the way, you may also be threatened, like i was.
FENSA Certificates are issued in the millions each year, and they will only inspect, about 1% of all installations, so when an installer, refuses to comply with building regs, you may not even know, this, until several years later, when you notice cracks, and with luck your home will not collapse, sometimes a possible collapse could take years, it all depends, on a lot of Variables.
Remember if FENSA Take over 2 years to carry out a Safety inspection then your lives and homes could be in danger, whilst you wait for them to carry it out.
If any thing remember this, the 2 years FENSA take to carry out a safety inspection, happening to be the Same time frame, in which Building Control, have in order to take out a prosecution, if a Company Like Anglian Home Improvements as in my case, refused repeatedly to comply with the legal requirements.
So questions should be raised, are FENSA covering up, for their Members,
who they are making huge sums of money, from by the Way, and make you and i wait, for that 2 year period to pass, to help their Members from Been Prosecuted.
If their Members are been Prosecuted they stop making money, and from a Large Company like Anglian windows, and stand to lose a fortune, so it's in FENSA's interest to threaten the individuals like my self, and put my life and that other lives in Danger.
FENSA and the GGF, even refuse to investigate Anglian Home improvements they help them infact, why, well the GGF is run and owned by the Industry, this is a statement made by Nigel Rees, CEO of the GGF, who do you think is a Director in the GGF, as Nigel states, Yes One of Anglians Directors, only their Finance Director, who was the man, as stated in a recording, he sent out the bogus Debt Collector, the one and Only Managing Director of Anglian Home Improvements.
Deception and Fraud is all i have seen from these Companies, who are also endorsed by the Great British Government, so bad is my case, and what these Companies are doing, i am waiting for my Petition, to be accepted at
Number 10, for a Public enquiry to be held, my bit to try and Close down FENSA.
Building Controls inspect at the start of every job, in the middle and the finished job, this is to ensure building regs are complied with, if they are not, and the installer refuses to comply, Building Control can and will take legal, action. and make your home safe.
FENSA only carry out inspections of 1% of all installations carried out by their Members, who are self regulated, these Installers like from Anglian Home Improvements were not skilled installers, they repeatedly refused to comply with building regs through out the years, now into the 5th year, causing extensive damage, and refuse to pay, they even refused to comply under the strict instructions of Consumer Direct, they have no legal powers either.
FENSA would not investigate those very disturbing installers and they continued and carried on installing windows in other unsuspecting Customers homes, and Trading Standards refused to investigate, so How many customers of Anglian Home Improvements, homes are now unsafe and unfit to live in that is the Question, and needs investigating.
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Coogey
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Join Date: 17/11/2009
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Location: High Wycombe
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Posted: 17/11/2009 6:20:20 AM
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Richierich said on the previous page that most Insurance backed Guarantees are worthless-and he is right. But he then extolled the virtues of Anglian as a stable company. That's not right and he knows it. Anglian has quietly changed names more than once and I am reliably informed were £155 million in debt until the banks wrote off £90 million in exchange for shares last year. Surely that's not stable? Why so much debt?
When our company have hired ex-Anglian installers in past years, we have to completely re-train them due to their bad ways. Unfortunately, some have been so warped by "chucking" windows in for years that they are not employable by a decent company anymore, so drift back to Anglian who always need fitters, good and bad, to fulfill their work obligations. So any customer is unknowingly playing russian roulette with installation quality.
And their salespersons lose so much of their commissions through the tough Anglian system they become desperate to put food on their family's tables so might end up being "economical with the truth" in order to make a badly needed sale. One such rep worked for us during the last year and showed me his Anglian pay slip: 9 sales, several of them in the many thousands. His commission: £198.
Could you live on that? Say he sold 1 in 3. That would mean at least 27 quotations at £7.33 each. Not even enough to pay for his petrol let alone his car expenses.
When they come from such a dog eat dog company who squeeze the public until, as one Anglian rep stated, "tears well up in their
( the homeowners) eyes" we try to retrain them as human beings, often without success.
Some of you reading this will have experienced this sharp practice: Give the customer apparently massive discounts so that Anglian or Everest are chosen over a reasonably priced local company. The customer waits several weeks only to be told that the surveyors report shows that the job is underpriced and that the more money needs to be paid. The frustrated clients are by now so fed up of having expectation postphoned and do not want to go cap in hand back to processing through the previously rejected companies, that they reluctantly pay up more often than not.Result: They get the order and a good profit at a price that would have been thrown out by the customer at quotation. Sneaky eh! Low down varmints-Yes!
We are considering making it company policy to not take on ex- Anglian staff after our experiences, but to be fair, there is always the exception to the rule.
Anglian Eyes above may be laying it on a bit thick, but is obviously aggrieved as he thought he was dealing with a top company."I can't get no satisfaction" is the song he must hum every day."And I try, and I try" doesn't seem to get him anywhere. No doubt Anglian install some jobs satisfactorily, but the ones I have seen are ,in the main,sub-standard. And they are such hard sales people, they don't really have to upgrade the window frame and design much over the years in comparison to market leading system companies. Just look at Anglian Eyes water video ( which I have seen for the first time this evening) and you can see the appalling silicone infill that's always needed at the base of an Anglian baypole, no matter how good the fitter.Looking at the general finishing,I would imagine that just Anglian's silicone bill should be enough to bankrupt them.
Can I point out that the Veka Network Guarantee is the best on the market. Anyone can check for themselves to see that Veka network have over £500,000 cash in the bank for any eventuality and are also completely insured.Veka are the largest privately owned Upvc extrusion company in Europe. That's why we favour them as well as the great quality of their products. They also check the work of their members and will act for the householder in a dispute.
I once made the mistake of not putting toughened glass in a hallway window that was fractionally less than 800mm from the floor. I was literally hounded by Fensa until I put it right. And they were in constant contact by phone and in writing with the customer. Only when they were satisfied that the job was correct would they sign it off.So I would say they are an effective watch dog for the public when they are aware of wrong doing.
On the one occasion that a (very good) installer made a slight error in the fixing point on a window picked up on a Veka annual inspection, we had to put it right or have our membership withdrawn.They would not give a millimetre until the job was up to standard. Surely that's protecting the customers who invest in the Veka product?
I write this to show you that there are some excellent organisations backing our industry who compliment the many quality local companies that trade up and down the country, even chastising companies like ourselves, despite our efforts to please, to put right our few errors to the benefit of paying customers. I have no personal benefit in mind - just telling the truth.
May I suggest that the real problems arise due to: ONE - the public being too often willing to risk using the cowboy element of our trade to potentially save a few pounds (usually ends up the other way around sooner or later) and then blaming our entire industry for their faulty choice, despite their rejection of the good and experienced companies that they could have chosen initially to receive a quality service.
And TWO- those who fall prey to the intensive marketing of Anglian, Everest,Weatherseal and the recently deceased then resurrected Zenith, expecting a quality job but then have to live with the sad after-effects of unrestrained speed fitting prompted by the installers desire to boost their earnings. Woe betide your elderly who trusts in these companies slick salespersons: They will rarely receive the "discount" given to more sales resistant younger folk. NEVER, I repeat, NEVER, allow anyone over 75 to be on their own whilst receiving a quotation from a national company - it should be outlawed anyway.Most local firms I know have a "conscience"; the larger ones just have the "Con" and use the "science" of selling to part the elderly with their often meagre funds. Shame on them! Our policy is to try our hardest to get the order from the elderly to save them from these predators and then to contact their younger relatives to go through the details with them before proceeding with the order. We know our prices, products and terms are fair because we have never had one of these relatives (so far) reject a single contract.
Blog after blog repeats the same sad scenario concerning "The Cowboys" and "The Nationals",but still the public won't learn. Here it is once again.
regards
Coogey
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DIY Conservatories Chris
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Posted: 17/11/2009 10:20:02 PM
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guys, I fear this post is turning into an Anglian bashing post.
Anglian Eyes, I think everyone who visits this forum knows by now that you have a massive grievance with them, but it would be better if the point you are currently making in here is posted in horror stories surely, that way you can engage in debate with others on your particular post subject. It is also more likelyu to attract others to air similar views, thus giving greater exposure to the subject matter.
Coogey, As per your other posts, this smacks of an advert sprinkled with the odd bit of good advice.
Come on guys the original subject on this post was how to spot a conman, surely we can keep a discussion going without it turning into an individual witchhunt.
Cheers,
DIY Conservatories
Mighty Oaks from little acorns grow.
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Coogey
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Join Date: 17/11/2009
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Posted: 18/11/2009 1:07:17 AM
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DIY Conservatories
I get your proposed point but it was in fact Richierich who was advertising Anglian in this forum. I have not once mentioned my company name and do not seek business from this forum. But as he was pushing and making wrong promotional statements about a company that has let so many people down in sales, fitting and product, I felt it essential to counter his assertions to protect the uninformed public lest they fall victim too by buying the wrong half of a half truth.
It was sheer coincidence that "Anglian eyes" preceded me, but his clear and concise evaluation of his current unfortunate circumstances does intimate that he has been let down firstly by Anglian and subsequently (possibly) by the watchdogs in our industry to at least some extent. He is claiming vested interests are responsible for this.
His point that a director of Anglian is on the board of the GGF, the very body that he is relying on to attend his concerns about Anglians purported failings, is surely worthy of contemplation.
As for the mention of Veka Network, I am simply an end user who is extremely pleased with what I receive from them compared to suppliers past. If a domestic customer can recommend a company who has done a one off good job to others on this forum,why can't I recommend Veka independently having witnessed thousands of high standard installations backed by honest and sound management? Especially as, being incognito, there is minimal benefit to me personally.
Well, I can't be in peoples homes trying to evaluate particular conmen for individual householders as they come in all shapes and sizes. But,I can point these ones away from companies that appear to train sales staff in the deceptive arts and to instead point confused potential buyers towards a company that encourages and mentors local companies within their fold to repeatedly perform above the norm coupled with supplying well designed, highly effective and attractive industry leading products. I speak as my years of experience finds since the truth needs no rehearsal unlike the lie.
If the Anglian reps stop Angliansizing this useful forum then others like myself can stop refuting their marketing statements."Those who stretch the truth should not complain at the snapback" And I agree that individual Reps should not use this site as a freebie marketplace for their wares. And remember, " those who tell white lies soon go colour blind"!
I thank you for your excellent forum that encourages a cleaning up of the darker side of our industry. "Truth is such a rare thing that there is a delight in the telling of it."
By the way, I was staggered to realise that the 159 companies on your bankrupcy list on this site was just for April 2009- I thought it was for the whole year. It would be interesting to note how many have phoenixed from the grave to trade under another name.Can you get those figures? So sad that the government weakly allows those among this number who are charlatans to inflict punishment once again through their faulty trading methods on the honest family companies forced to continue re-competing with them as they re-enter the same boxing ring despite what should have remained a fair knockout.
Regards
Coogey
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DIY Conservatories Chris
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Anglianeyes
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Posted: 20/11/2009 1:55:18 AM
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My Petition has now been successful, calling for a Public enquiry into FENSA.
FENSA Should never been allowed, to control or be relied on, to Control Building regs, they inspect only 1% of all installations, carried out by Self Certification, and as in my Case, they took over 2 years to carry out a Safety inspection, after they Acknowledged the Installation was dangerous, but not before deception by FENSA, what a nightmare, they kept saying letters they never received, then they received follow up letters, then they kept saying the Photographs and recordings were not in the letters, this went on and on, until, i started using email, as a reliable means of Communication.
2 Years i was in daily contact with FENSA, and they kept making excuses, the fact that Anglians Finance Director, is also a Director in the GGF, the GGF, is owned and Run by the Industry, as Nigel Rees, the CEO of the GGF, Stated in his email to me, and refuses to investigate anything, even the 4 Year old that was nearly crushed to death, when one of Anglian bay windows, Collapsed, and when they refused to this day, 5 years later, refuse to install the Legally required Spreader Plates in Load bearing Bay windows around my Property, Completely destroying it and my life, also , and telling me in recording that building Regs don't apply to my installation, then Yes SHUT FENSA down before People are killed. FENSA and the GGF, even refused to investigate they 3 different teams, who all have worked on this property, all refused to comply with Building regs, this means these installers So called, have been allowed to continue, without been spoken too by anyone, allowed to carry on installing Windows in homes around the Country, how many unsuspecting Customers will find their Homes Collapsing in the near future, how many people will be killed, these Installers are criminals, just as i originally thought, the papers and Courts are now catching the Benefits cheats and Tax Fraudsters in Anglian Home improvements may this year have been through the Courts, they are ripping the General Public off, and the BANKS like Lloyds TSB, refuse to even investigate the Fraud in the Anglian Group.
Building Controls, and building regs, were designed so that any work carried out in our homes, is done so, in a safe manor, and the correct materials are used, to ensure this, and are long lasting, all to do with Health and Safety, what the industry has done, is taken away the our Rights, by imposing Companies like FENSA, who say to the Government they will promise to ensure that they are Self Certifying, and promise that works carried out are done so, Legally and also they will comply with Uk Building regs.
Inspecting only 1% of all installations of over 6 million installations, by Self Certification, FENSA has conducted only 1% Inspection of all these installations, is a watering down of our Rights to Health and Safety in the HOME.
i intend to contact the Media, to make this story Public, and to eventually have FENSA shut down for Good, the only
people Trusted to carry out Safe installation are Building Controls.
Then the plot thickens with FENSA,
i will not bored you Guys with the intimate details, but surely, what i do know, for sure, is that FENSA is not what it says it is, as i have discovered a whole range of Deceptive Tools used by them, even the BBA, who threatened to sue, me, even after, not complying with building regs, and then after destroying my home, when they were eventually in charge of an installation, now failed 3 times in 5 years, and i am still sleeping on the Floor in another room, as this is a one bedroomed bungalow.
FENSA should not be allowed to Have anymore control as what they have done is disturbing, and God only knows how many unsuspecting installations have been carried out, by Anglian Home improvements, illegally as in my case, and others, i am so far aware off. they are telling the Customers building regs don't apply, then issue FENSA Certifications i have seen this several times, and it must be stopped, its illegal, what FENSA are doing, they are all working for their own interests, what i have read on another site, is it Appears FENSA hound the smaller Companies to Comply But the BIG monsters Like Anglian home improvements who threaten the Consumer, you Guys may not have read the Stories this year along of many very disturbing Cases, really so shocking, you may just be able to read in the Newspapers soon about what Anglian have been upto, as i will be linking all these Stories for the Newspapers.
please sign my Petition, as it is in my opinion, worth signing, it is a statement to this Government, give us back our rights for Health and Safety in the HOME and stop companies like FENSA making vast Fortunes by lying to us, at our expense. Save our Homes and our Lives.
Your petition has been approved by the Number 10 web team, and
is now available on the Number 10 website at the following
address:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/FENSA-BBA/
Your petition reads:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to A pubic
enquiry into FENSA not complying with Building Regulations
A pubic enquiry into why FENSA are not complying with Building
Regulations.
FENSA and it's Members are Self Regulated, to install windows,
all installations must comply with the Legal Requirements.
FENSA and Anglian Home Improvements are illegally advertising
that FENSA enforces Building Regulations. FENSA after years
then state they cannot enforce Building Regulations, as they do
not have legal powers, if a Member refuses to comply with
Building regulations, there is nothing they can do. 4
BBA/FENSA, inspections, one installation controlled by the
BBA/FENSA my installation, of windows, are without the legally
required Spreader Plates in Bay windows. FENSA/GGF, refuse to
investigate, and stop the illegal installations carried out by
Anglian Home Improvements, illegally issuing FENSA
Certificates, after refusing to comply with Building
Regulations. FENSA take over 2 years to carry out Safety
inspections, after Acknowleging one of its Members had carried
out Dangerous Installations, after refusing to comply with the
Legal Requirements, Building Control in Manchester agree with
me, and have stated, the only way now, is Public Exposure.
Thanks for submitting your petition.
-- the ePetitions team
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DIY Conservatories Chris
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Posted: 20/11/2009 1:04:20 PM
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AnglianEyes,
You evidentally have either not read my post above, or you have chosen to ignore it completely.
This is really not the thread for your highly specific grievance, there are much more relevant topic areas for this. I don't beleive you are doing yourself any favours by relentlessly continuing to post this subject matter under this topic.
Also, if you had taken the time to look around you may well notice that one of the Anglian directors is participating, again do you not think you would be better served in that arena.
Please don't spoil this forum by simply railroading through any posts you feel without any regard for others who want to find answers to other issues.
Incidentally, I don't think that just because the epetitions team have accepted your proposal, it means that the government will act upon it. The windows scrappage petition appears to be proof of that.
Cheers, C
DIY Conservatories
Mighty Oaks from little acorns grow.
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Anglianeyes
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Posted: 20/11/2009 7:45:24 PM
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i am Really sorry, was not aware this was in the wrong section.
It did say '' how to spot a Conman, Anglians Managing Director is such a person, as i have the Evidence, and Anglians Finance Director, is also been deceptive, its Director did send out the Bogus Debt Collector, sending out its Managing Director, was planned including the Fraud, this is not just my Grievance, there are many that have like myself, been conned, by this Company, i am not alone, when repeatedly threatened by them.
My Story is extremely complexed, and it has been seen that FENSA and the GGF, are not acting in accordance to the Laws in this Country, and are deliberately leaving Customers, lives and Homes in Danger, I had asked Anglians Solicitors to remove all convicted Criminals from its Company, and they Refused.
Did you know, also amongst the Many Court Cases this year, 3 Directors, Yes 3 of Anglians Directors were up in Court earlier this Year, the judge, stated she did not Believe, their Defence, what these 3 Directors, involved in what they did, in the Case dubbed the Sales Queen.
Oh do you know, how many Elderly ladies were threatened this year alone, Several of them, and these kinds of Stories all reported in newspapers went on and on.
The Industry needs Cleaning up, and Anglian are a good Place to do that, Given their Very Busy Schedule in the Courts this Year, they were told about the Abuse, and Fraud in 2005, they chose to systematically destroy my home, ignore all my letters regarding this, and chose to abuse me, through out the years, and it has not stopped to this day, i wont go into this, but i have all the evidence and recording to prove this, including Films.
Other stories through out the industry, one was a Sexual assault, on a young Girl, 15 years old, another, A Sales man, went on his own rampage, around Houses, pushing elderly people out of his way, also trying to get a camera of one elderly person who was trying to record these events, another Story, another Sales Man, seriously assaulted a Customer causing facial and bodily injuries.
FENSA and the GGF, refuse to investigate any of these, this industry needs a Public Enquiry, my Father and my neighbours and passers by were even verbally abused by thIs company Anglian Home improvements, did you know, Anglians Managing Director, when he was rumbled as been a bogus Debt Collector, yes a Debt Collector, a Title never used in the Anglian Group, illegally took Photographs, did you know, how many years i was requesting these back for, they claim they never ignored my complaints, yet it took them over 3 years to say, the photos were deleted some time ago, only after i told them i am making this Public.
Another Bogus Title its Managing Director had been using was Chief Operations Officer, yet another Title Never used in the ANGLIAN group, the CEO of the GGF, Told me that this person was the CEO , and he calls himself the Chief Operations officer, so you see, the GGF are also covering up for Anglian.
Did you know also the GGF Refuses to investigate why a 4 year old was nearly Crushed to death, when one of Anglians bay windows, collapsed at the 4 year olds Parents home, well, the GGF is run by the Industry, and Anglians Finance director, is a Director in the GGF.
iF Customers lives are in danger, the reasons why needs to be investigated, otherwise, is could be one of Family members who is the first to be killed, and i don't want that too happen, that is why i am standing up for what i consider is right and just, i have been threatened far too may times by FENSA and Anglian including the BBA, to back down now, its full Public Exposure for this.
Anglians installers were not skilled, they repeatedly refused to comply with building regs, Building Control in writing agreed with me, and stated the only way now is for public exposure.
Anglians installers are still to this day, installing windows, and refusing to comply with building regs, many stories of this i have seen, and they issue a FENSA Certificate, knowing full well, they have deliberately refused to comply with the legal Requirements, so how many homes are now in danger of Collaspe, well we will never know, we have to sit back, and wait for someone to be killed, if Anglain refuse to comply with building regs, this is what is going to happen.
I Will be more careful, in future, where i put my Postings, but in all honesty, i did originally Considered this to be the best place for my postings. i will like you wish, find a better place for my future postings.
Thank you for informing me that one of Anglians Directors is using this site, that i was not aware of. and do not until they show their True colours, consider them all to be the Same, its like anywhere else in the world, today, everyone is not the same, just because they have to work with each other, for the Same Company.
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DIY Conservatories Chris
Intermediate
Join Date: 30/09/2009
Posts: 79
Location: Sheffield, UK
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Posted: 25/11/2009 10:01:02 AM
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Anglian,
Thanks for (eventually) acknowledging the need to post this kind of highly specific topic in posts other than those intended to answer different questions.
I do strongly suggest you start a new thread entirely, perhaps within the anglian section. Put a question to others and perhaps you may find a much richer debate can ensue.
Cheers,
DIY Conservatories
Mighty Oaks from little acorns grow.
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